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1. What does the terminology Primus, Classic Primus and Everest Primus refer to?
2. Why is Everest Primus better than your competitors' products?
3. Is Everest Primus better than Classic Primus?
4. If I want to learn more about Primus, is there training available?
5. If I need technical assistance, can Schlage support me?
6. Do Primus keys require special key cutting equipment?
7. Do I need special tools or pin kits to service Primus?
8. Can I put Primus in a competitor's lock?
9. Is Primus available in an interchangeable core format?
10. What is the difference between the UL and non-UL versions of Primus?
11. Can Everest Primus UL and non-UL cylinders be used in the same key system?
12. Is Primus available in SFIC?
13. I am an end user of products. How do I place an order for Primus?
14. I am a locksmith or dealer. How do I place an order for Primus?
15. What are Primus "Levels"?
16. What types of end user exclusivity are available?
17. Can other locksmiths or dealers be authorized to sell Primus in my area?
18. If I am currently a Classic Primus dealer, can I get the same side bitting when I order Everest Primus?
19. Is Primus patented?
20. Why is it important for a patented key system to be covered by multiple patents?
21. Why doesn't Everest Primus have a check pin like Everest?
22. Why can't dealers and locksmiths stock Everest Primus in Everest D keyways?
23. Are Everest Primus key systems using Everest D Family keyways more secure than those using Everest C Family keyways?
24. Can I generate a large master key system with Everest Primus?
25. Is there a 5-pin version of Everest Primus available?
26. Can I upgrade my existing key system to Primus?
27. What is an ID Card?
28. What is a Face Sheet?
29. Can I fax the Face Sheet with my order?
30. If I am a current Primus user, how do I get more keys?
31. If I have an end user system, how can I change who is authorized to order keys?

 


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1. What does the terminology Primus, Classic Primus and Everest Primus refer to?
A. Prior to the introduction of Everest Primus, Schlage offered a high security cylinder compatible with our Classic keyways. This single offering was simply referred to as Primus. Since the introduction of Everest Primus, Schlage began referring to this original product as Classic Primus to help differentiate the two products. The new product, Everest Primus, incorporates a new set of patented keyways with the already proven Primus technology. The terms Classic and Everest describe the family of keyways that the product uses and the term Primus refers to the side bitting, finger pin and side bar mechanisms.
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2. Why is Everest Primus better than your competitors' products?
A. Everest Primus is covered by four utility patents in the US alone, which means that you have four layers of assurance that your keys can't be made and distributed by other manufacturers. Unlike many competitors' products that have cumbersome pinning procedures, require special key machines, and have keys that take extra time to cut, Everest Primus products can be combinated using commonly available pin kits and key cutting equipment. Schlage offers more key control solutions to help you customize your level of security to meet your budget and your needs. In the Everest family alone, you can choose Everest Open, Everest Restricted, Everest Primus, Everest Primus UL or a combination of these products to customize your security. Outstanding products combined with the excellent sales, service and support are just some of the ways that Ingersoll Rand and Schlage continue to be your Proven Source for Proven Solutions.
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3. Is Everest Primus better than Classic Primus?
A. While there are many similarities between Classic Primus and Everest Primus, there are some differences as well. Both products provide excellent pick resistance and a means to help control unauthorized key duplication. Since Classic Primus can be keyed in to existing Classic key systems, Classic Primus is still commonly used for key system upgrades. If you are installing a new system, we recommend Everest Primus. Everest Primus is protected by a total of four utility patents (vs. two for Classic Primus) that give us legal exclusivity to make this product through the year 2014 (vs. 2007 for Classic Primus). These patents allow us to control the distribution of keys and provide a dealer or end user with geographic exclusivity on Primus keys. Another difference between Everest Primus and Classic Primus is that Everest Primus uses a larger key bow that provides you with additional space to stamp information and makes the keys easier to handle.
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4. If I want to learn more about Primus, is there training available?
A. Yes. Schlage believes that the more educated you are about our products, the more you'll realize the value that Schlage products offer. Schlage offers a wide variety of training classes on both a local level and across the country. To find out more, Contact Us.
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5. If I need technical assistance, can Schlage support me?
A. Yes. Schlage offers technical assistance at no charge during normal business hours. Technical support can be reached by dialing 1-800-847-1864. If you have an urgent need during non-business hours, contact your nearest Security Center or Authorized Locksmith.
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6. Do Primus keys require special key cutting equipment?
A. Since Primus keys use the same cut depths and spacing as our non-Primus full size (non-SFIC) keys, most customers can use their existing key cutting equipment to cut Primus keys. Both Classic Primus and Everest Primus can be cut on commonly available rotary (keys cut by a spinning cutting wheel) key cutting machines designed to cut Schlage keys. Classic Primus and Everest Primus C Family (keyways designated by a C followed by three numbers) keys can also be cut on a punch machine designed to cut Schlage keys. Older Blue Punch machines may require a jaw upgrade, which can be purchased from Schlage or your key machine manufacturer. Everest D Family (keyways designated by a D followed by three numbers) should be cut on rotary key machines to reduce key bending and burrs.
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7. Do I need special tools or pin kits to service Primus?
A. No. Since Primus cylinders use the same top pin depths and spacing as Schlage's non-Primus cylinders, there is no need to buy a special pin kit to key Primus cylinders. Most customers order cylinders prepinned to their specific side bitting, however if you need the recombinate the side bitting combination in the field, Schlage recommends purchasing the 40-070 Primus pin kit.
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8. Can I put Primus in a competitor's lock?
A. Classic Primus and Everest Primus are both available in a wide variety of formats to fit both Schlage and competitor locksets. Primus cylinders are available to fit most competitors' mortise locks as well as most Corbin Russwin, Yale, and Sargent cylindrical locksets. Contact us if you'd like to see if you qualify for a free evaluation or if you have questions about the availability of a cylinder to fit your specific application.
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9. Is Primus available in an interchangeable core format?
A. Yes. Primus is available in the Schlage Full Size Interchangeable Core, Key-in-Knob/Lever, Mortise and Rim cylinder formats as well as a variety of configurations to fit competitor locksets.
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10. What is the difference between the UL and non-UL versions of Primus?
A. The primary function of the UL437 standard is to certify that a cylinder is both pick resistant and drill resistant. Primus UL437 Listed cylinders have a series of hardened steel drill pins added to our already pick resistant Primus cylinders. Since this adds cost to the cylinder for a feature that many of our customers don't require, Schlage leaves the cylinder choice up to you.
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11. Can Everest Primus UL and non-UL cylinders be used in the same key system?
A. Yes. The drill pins added to provide UL approved drill resistance do not affect the function of the cylinder, therefore you can mix UL and non-UL approved Everest Primus cylinders in the same key system.
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12. Is Primus available in SFIC?
A. No. Customers currently on unpatented SFIC key systems should consider an Everest Restricted SFIC key system to meet their key control needs.
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13. I am an end user of products. How do I place an order for Primus?
A. Schlage only accepts orders for Primus products from authorized Primus dealers. Your authorized Primus dealer can place an order directly with Schlage. Once a Primus key system has been established, your dealer may ask you to provide additional documentation such as a signed Face Sheet or an ID card to confirm that you are authorized to order Primus keys.
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14. I am a locksmith or dealer. How do I place an order for Primus?
A. All locksmiths and dealers wishing to sell Primus must be approved by Schlage and must sign a contract with Schlage or a Schlage wholesaler. The contract, among other things, requires the locksmith to safeguard Primus key blanks and restrict the issuance of keys only to authorized individuals. Once this contract is signed, dealers and locksmiths can order product by specifying the part number and the desired Primus (Classic or Everest) keyway. Like Conventional Classic and Everest cylinders, almost all Classic Primus and Everest Primus products share the same part number. Classic Primus and Everest Primus keys have distinct part numbers because of the significant variation on key bow shape. Consult your Schlage Price Book for the necessary key part numbers.
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15. What are Primus "Levels"?
A. Primus levels define how much exclusivity has been granted and to whom it has been granted. Generally speaking, the higher your Primus level, the more exclusivity you have. Levels 1 through 4 are Classic Primus levels. Levels 7 through 9 are Everest Primus .

In a Level 1 system all Primus locksmiths have access to the same keyblanks. Level 1+ and Level 7 keys are exclusive to a large dealer, such as a wholesaler and are resold through authorized locksmiths. Each Level 1+ or Level 7 locksmith is assigned a unique ID number that is stamped on his or her keys and is only permitted to duplicate keys for systems having keys bearing his or her unique ID number (after verifying that the keyholder is permitted to obtain duplicate keys). Level 2 and 8 systems grant exclusivity to a large dealer that sells directly to end-users. Level 3, 4 and 9 systems provide end users with keys that are exclusive to their facility. With end user exclusivity, the amount of exclusivity granted depends on the amount of product purchased.
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16. What types of end user exclusivity are available?
A. For systems of less than 60 cylinders, Schlage randomly assigns the side bitting from a small pool of "Universal" side bittings. If your order consists of 60 or more cylinders, Schlage can offer keys that are geographically exclusive to you based on the first two digits of your zip code.Very large facilities (2,000 or more cylinders and up) may qualify for time zone or nationwide exclusivity, depending on their purchase commitment.
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17. Can other locksmiths or dealers be authorized to sell Primus is my area?
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Schlage offers many exclusivity options to meet your needs. If you sign up for an Everest Primus Level 8 system which offers a dealer an exclusive side bitting within his or her time zone, no other dealer in your time zone can purchase product from Schlage. If you are choosing to sell a Level 1+ or Level 7 system, your wholesaler or security dealer has primary control over who is permitted to sell product. Schlage's decision to approve or disapprove a dealer's recommendation is based on the sellers' track record and ability to sell and service Schlage customers.

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18. If I am currently a Classic Primus dealer, can I get the same side bitting when I order Everest Primus?
A. If your Classic Primus side bitting has a shallow cut near the tip of the key bow, Schlage may be able to assign you the same Everest Primus combination. Schlage will only regularly assign Everest Primus combinations with shallow side bitting cuts near the tip of the key to ensure that Everest Primus keys used to operate conventional Everest cylinders will lift the Everest check pin.
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19. Is Primus patented?
A. Yes. Classic Primus is covered by two U.S. utility patents through the year 2007. Everest Primus is covered by these two patents plus 2 additional U.S. utility patents that are valid through the year 2014. Patents in Canad, Mexico and several other countries also cover Primus products. Note: Utility patents are very important for patented key systems because they cover the functionality of a product rather that just an aesthetic look of a product.
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20. Why is it important for a patented key system to be covered by multiple patents?
A. Multiple patents provide layers of security. Each patent is a barrier that prevents other manufacturers from legally making our patented keys. The more barriers we have, the less likely it is that another manufacturer will be able to make our patented keys that would compromise Schlage's distribution exclusivity. While it may seem odd, other manufacturers have sold patented key systems to customers only to have the single patent protecting their produt later deemed invalid. When this happened, keys became readily available and the ability to control unauthorized key duplication was lost. Schlage uses the barrier of multiple U.S. utility patents to provide you with layers of security that protect you from this risk.
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21. Why doesn't Everest Primus have a check pin like Everest?
A. The check pin in a conventional Everest cylinder is designed to check for the patented side material on the key. In an Everest Primus cylinder the five finger pins are used to check for this material.
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22. Why can't dealers and locksmiths stock Everest Primus in Everest D keyways?
A. In conventional (non-Primus) cylinders, Everest D keyways are sold as restricted keyways. This means that Everest D keys are only shipped to an address specified by an end user and that these keys are not commercially available to be stocked by locksmiths. Since Everest Primus keys in Everest D keyways will operate Everest conventional cylinders, allowing them to be stocked would deteriorate the security we currently offer to facilities with restricted conventional key systems.
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23. Are Everest Primus key systems using Everest D Family keyways more secure than those using Everest C Family keyways?
A. No. If you choose end user exclusivity the side-milling pattern for your keys is geographically exclusive to you based on your purchase commitment. This means that your side bitting is exclusive to you and cannot be stocked by a locksmith or security dealer without your written consent. This is true regardless of whether you choose an Everest C Family or an Everest D Family Everest Primus key system.
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24. Can I generate a large master key system with Everest Primus?
A. Yes. Schlage offers ten "base" keyways (base keys only enter base keyway cylinders) in two different families of keyways, the Everest C Family and the Everest D Family. Each of these families has "hierarchy" keyways (hierarchy keys will enter multiple base keyway cylinders) that are often used as master keys. While master key system design and cross keying greatly affect the number of usable combinations, the maximum theoretical size of an Everest Primus master key system is 40,960 combinations (4,096 combinations times 10 keyways) under a single top master key. Only extremely large facilities should ever require such a high number of combinations. Although Schlage has other solutions for these large facilities, we typically recommend that large facilities consider having multiple master key systems to prevent putting an entire facility at risk if a top master key is lost or stolen.
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25. Is there a 5-pin version of Everest Primus available?
A. No. Everest Primus is intended to provide additional security as well as a means to help control key duplication. 5-pin systems only offer a limited number of combinations and are not compatible with the security that Primus systems are intended to provide. Schlage discourages the use of Primus cylinders when only 5-pin chambers are being used.
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26. Can I upgrade my existing key system to Primus?
A. Facilities currently using Everest C Family or Everest D Family conventional (non-Primus) keyways can upgrade sensitive areas of their facilities to Everest Primus and still maintain a single master key to the facility. Everest Primus keys can operate Everest cylinders, but not visa versa. This means that you can gain control of sensitive areas of your facility such as exterior doors, offices of key personnel, and computer rooms by simply replacing the cylinders with Everest Primus cylinders and issuing Everest Primus keys only to authorized individuals. Customers using Classic key systems (C, CE, E, EF, F, FG and Quad keyways) can upgrade their key systems in a similar manner with Classic Primus.
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27. What is an ID Card?
A. Schlage dealers use ID Cards to ensure that only the individuals you authorize are allowed to obtain keys for your facility. If a local locksmith or dealer manages your system, you probably have an ID card. This ID card is used much like a credit card. To request additional keys, you must present this ID card to your security professional and they will compare your signature to the one on the card to verify that you are permitted to purchase keys. Some security professionals keep a list of authorized signatures on file rather than requiring you to present your ID card each time you need keys, so don't be worried if your dealer does not require you to present an ID card.
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28. What is a Face Sheet?
A. Orders for end user Level keys and cylinders can be purchased through several different security professionals. To ensure security in end user key systems, the Schlage factory verifies your ability to order product. When your Primus system is set up, you provide us with a signature card that is signed by all individuals authorized to place Primus orders on your behalf. Face Sheets are requests to order product for your facility that bear an original signature. Face Sheets are compared to the Signature Card we have on file before your order is processed. For your security, a Face Sheet must accompany every order you place.
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29. Can I fax the Face Sheet with my order?
A. No. Signatures can be easily photocopied and put on a Face Sheet without your knowledge. Since we cannot detect this fraud on faxes, we only accept Face Sheets that have an original signature on them.
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30. If I am a current Primus user, how do I get more keys?
A. If you have an ID Card for your system, the dealer or locksmith whose name appears on the card controls the issuance of keys for your facility. If you have an end user (Level 3, 4, or 9) key system, Schlage verifies the signature on all orders for your facility. Any authorized Schlage distributor can submit an order to Schlage requesting keys to your facility.A Face Sheet bearing an original signature of someone pre-authorized to order keys for your facility must accompany all orders for end user level products. Once Schlage verifies that you have authorized the order to be placed, the order can be processed. Keys can only be shipped to an address that has been designated by your facility based on the Signature Card we have on file. If you don't know what level your system is or who your dealer is, Contact Us for assistance.
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31. If I have an end user system, how can I change who is authorized to order keys?
A. To add or remove authorized signatories or shipping addresses, a new Signature Card must be submitted and signed by the individual pre-authorized to make these changes. End user systems (Levels 3, 4, and 9) require a Signature Card to be submitted when the order is first established. The Signature Card contains signatures of all of the individuals you have authorized to order keys for your facility, addresses that you will allow us to ship keys to, and the name of an individual who is authorized to make changes to the Signature Card.
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